Disabilitato C3PO per il player, DSDPlay dai plugin... e niente, non va:
codice:*** /var/log/squeezeboxserver/server.log *** [17-10-04 21:46:04.0607] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1244) Warning: [21:46:04.0604] Error: Unable to read at least 80 bytes from file. [17-10-04 21:46:11.4115] Slim::Player::StreamingController::play (2100) 00:1c:c0:37:22:80 [17-10-04 21:46:11.4123] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stop (603) Song queue is now 1 [17-10-04 21:46:11.4125] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setPlayingState (2357) new playing state STOPPED [17-10-04 21:46:11.4126] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (2366) new streaming state IDLE [17-10-04 21:46:11.4147] Slim::Player::Song::new (108) index 2 -> file:///home/data/audio/DSD/test64-sdm8.dsf [17-10-04 21:46:11.4150] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (2366) new streaming state TRACKWAIT [17-10-04 21:46:11.4159] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_playersMessage (789) Now Playing: file:///home/data/audio/DSD/test64-sdm8.dsf [17-10-04 21:46:11.4195] Slim::Player::Song::getNextSong (229) file:///home/data/audio/DSD/test64-sdm8.dsf [17-10-04 21:46:11.4198] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_nextTrackReady (737) 00:1c:c0:37:22:80: nextTrack will be index 2 [17-10-04 21:46:11.4201] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1203) Song queue is now 2 [17-10-04 21:46:11.4202] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1206) 00:1c:c0:37:22:80: preparing to stream song index 2 [17-10-04 21:46:11.4205] Slim::Player::Song::open (363) file:///home/data/audio/DSD/test64-sdm8.dsf [17-10-04 21:46:11.4213] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (443) Error: Didn't find any command matches for type: dsf [17-10-04 21:46:11.4215] Slim::Player::Song::open (387) seek=false time=0 canSeek=0SEEK_ERROR_TRANSCODED [17-10-04 21:46:11.4221] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (443) Error: Didn't find any command matches for type: dsf [17-10-04 21:46:11.4223] Slim::Player::Song::open (409) Error: Couldn't create command line for dsf playback for [file:///home/data/audio/DSD/test64-sdm8.dsf] [17-10-04 21:46:11.4225] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_playersMessage (789) Unsupported sample-rate: file:///home/data/audio/DSD/test64-sdm8.dsf [17-10-04 21:46:11.4233] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_willRetry (1391) no retry data [17-10-04 21:46:11.4235] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (2366) new streaming state IDLE [17-10-04 21:46:11.4238] Slim::Player::StreamingController::nextsong (882) The next song is number 0, was 2
Ciao, Paolo.
«Se tu hai una mela, e io ho una mela, e ce le scambiamo, allora tu ed io abbiamo sempre una mela per uno. Ma se tu hai un'idea, ed io ho un'idea, e ce le scambiamo, allora abbiamo entrambi due idee.»
Ciao, Marco.
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction."
— E. F. Schumacher (mis-attributed to A. Einstein)
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Autore della patch R2 per Squeezelite e del plugin C-3PO. note libere
Logitech media Server 7.9 > miniPc + squeezelite-R2 / SB+ > "Lu Scalmentu" NOS R2R DAC by TubeOne/ AudioResearch DAC 1-20 >
Klimo Merlino Gold TPS > DIS Interconnect > Kent Gold > Reference > Monitor Audio Studio 20 SE
evidentemente no...
certo. È una copia di quella che uso sempre... e che con C3PO funziona:
codice:nice --10 squeezelite -n 'test' -C 1 -D :u32be -o 'hw:CARD=D20' -V 'DIYINHK USB Audio 2.0 ' -r 768000 -m '00:1c:c0:37:22:80' -b '102400:102400' -a '499:3' -p 89 -d 'all=info' -d 'slimproto=warn' -f /tmp/squeezelite.log
Ciao, Paolo.
«Se tu hai una mela, e io ho una mela, e ce le scambiamo, allora tu ed io abbiamo sempre una mela per uno. Ma se tu hai un'idea, ed io ho un'idea, e ce le scambiamo, allora abbiamo entrambi due idee.»
Non sono certo sia il caso, ma il -r 768000 limita i saple rates che squeezelite può eseguire, senza il -x nel caso di sample rates diversi chiede al server di fare il downsample (da cui l'esigenza della capability D, che con C-3PO viene 'formalmente' inserita ma poi ignorata come richiesta in se).
prova a toglierlo.
questa è la mia riga (in win):
squeezelite-R2 -n Squeezelite-DSD@win10 -m mc:20:00:00:00:25 -b 8192:8192 -C 1 -d all=debug -f "squeezelite-DSD.log" -s 192.168.1.110 -o 1
In alternativa, potersti provare a definire le righe * transcode in convert.conf (stiamo sempr eparlando di C-3PO Disabilitato) che servono appuntoa gestire le richieste di downsample dal player-
Ultima modifica di marcoc1712 : 05-10-2017 a 17:14
Ciao, Marco.
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction."
— E. F. Schumacher (mis-attributed to A. Einstein)
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Autore della patch R2 per Squeezelite e del plugin C-3PO. note libere
Logitech media Server 7.9 > miniPc + squeezelite-R2 / SB+ > "Lu Scalmentu" NOS R2R DAC by TubeOne/ AudioResearch DAC 1-20 >
Klimo Merlino Gold TPS > DIS Interconnect > Kent Gold > Reference > Monitor Audio Studio 20 SE
fatto... ma non è cambiato nulla:
??codice:squeezelite -n test -C 1 -D :u32be -o hw:CARD=D20 -V DIYINHK USB Audio 2.0 -m 00:1c:c0:37:22:80 -b 102400:102400 -a 499:3 -p 89 -d all=info -d slimproto=warn -f /tmp/squeezelite.log [22:08:20.750482] stream_init:290 init stream [22:08:20.824212] output_init_alsa:889 init output [22:08:20.824297] output_init_alsa:930 device : hw:CARD=D20 requested alsa_buffer: 499 alsa_period: 3 format: any mmap: 1 [22:08:20.831035] output_init_common:410 supported rates: 768000 705600 384000 352800 192000 176400 96000 88200 48000 44100 [22:08:21.050823] output_init_alsa:946 memory locked [22:08:21.052029] decode_init:129 init decode, include codecs: exclude codecs: [22:08:21.052066] register_dsd:906 using dsd to decode dsf,dff [22:08:21.060777] load_faad:610 loaded libfaad.so.2 [22:08:21.060793] register_faad:640 using faad to decode aac [22:08:21.060964] load_vorbis:300 loaded libvorbisfile.so.3 [22:08:21.060975] register_vorbis:329 using vorbis to decode ogg [22:08:21.060991] load_flac:266 loaded libFLAC.so.8 [22:08:21.060999] register_flac:294 using flac to decode flc [22:08:21.061006] register_pcm:424 using pcm to decode aif,pcm [22:08:21.095993] load_mad:383 loaded libmad.so.0 [22:08:21.096017] register_mad:412 using mad to decode mp3 [22:08:21.116177] decode_flush:190 decode flush [22:08:21.116219] output_flush:423 flush output buffer [22:08:21.117304] decode_flush:190 decode flush [22:08:21.117323] output_flush:423 flush output buffer *** /var/log/squeezeboxserver/server.log *** [17-10-05 22:08:21.0991] Slim::Player::StreamingController::playerActive (1993) 00:1c:c0:37:22:80 player already active: 00:1c:c0:37:22:80 [17-10-05 22:08:21.1146] Slim::Player::Song::new (108) index 0 -> file:///home/data/audio/DSD/test64-sdm8.dsf [17-10-05 22:08:21.1150] Slim::Player::StreamingController::resetSongqueue (1776) Song queue is now 0 [17-10-05 22:08:21.1154] Slim::Player::StreamingController::playerActive (1993) 00:1c:c0:37:22:80 player already active: 00:1c:c0:37:22:80 [17-10-05 22:08:21.1156] Slim::Player::Squeezebox::reconnect (80) 00:1c:c0:37:22:80 restaring play on pseudo-reconnect at 0 [17-10-05 22:08:21.1158] Slim::Player::StreamingController::playerReconnect (2072) 00:1c:c0:37:22:80 [17-10-05 22:08:21.1164] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stop (603) Song queue is now 0 [17-10-05 22:08:21.1166] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setPlayingState (2357) new playing state STOPPED [17-10-05 22:08:21.1168] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (2366) new streaming state IDLE [17-10-05 22:08:21.1171] Slim::Player::Squeezebox::reconnect (88) 00:1c:c0:37:22:80 forcing stop on pseudo-reconnect [17-10-05 22:08:30.4249] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (443) Error: Didn't find any command matches for type: dsf [17-10-05 22:08:57.2831] Slim::Player::StreamingController::play (2100) 00:1c:c0:37:22:80 [17-10-05 22:08:57.2837] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stop (603) Song queue is now 0 [17-10-05 22:08:57.2838] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setPlayingState (2357) new playing state STOPPED [17-10-05 22:08:57.2840] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (2366) new streaming state IDLE [17-10-05 22:08:57.2846] Slim::Player::Song::new (108) index 0 -> file:///home/data/audio/DSD/test64-sdm8.dsf [17-10-05 22:08:57.2850] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (2366) new streaming state TRACKWAIT [17-10-05 22:08:57.2858] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_playersMessage (789) Now Playing: file:///home/data/audio/DSD/test64-sdm8.dsf [17-10-05 22:08:57.2892] Slim::Player::Song::getNextSong (229) file:///home/data/audio/DSD/test64-sdm8.dsf [17-10-05 22:08:57.2894] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_nextTrackReady (737) 00:1c:c0:37:22:80: nextTrack will be index 0 [17-10-05 22:08:57.2897] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1203) Song queue is now 0 [17-10-05 22:08:57.2898] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1206) 00:1c:c0:37:22:80: preparing to stream song index 0 [17-10-05 22:08:57.2900] Slim::Player::Song::open (363) file:///home/data/audio/DSD/test64-sdm8.dsf [17-10-05 22:08:57.2907] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (443) Error: Didn't find any command matches for type: dsf [17-10-05 22:08:57.2909] Slim::Player::Song::open (387) seek=false time=0 canSeek=0SEEK_ERROR_TRANSCODED [17-10-05 22:08:57.2913] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (443) Error: Didn't find any command matches for type: dsf [17-10-05 22:08:57.2915] Slim::Player::Song::open (409) Error: Couldn't create command line for dsf playback for [file:///home/data/audio/DSD/test64-sdm8.dsf] [17-10-05 22:08:57.2917] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_playersMessage (789) Unsupported sample-rate: file:///home/data/audio/DSD/test64-sdm8.dsf [17-10-05 22:08:57.2924] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_willRetry (1391) no retry data [17-10-05 22:08:57.2925] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (2366) new streaming state IDLE [17-10-05 22:08:57.2929] Slim::Player::StreamingController::nextsong (882) The next song is number 0, was 0 *** /tmp/squeezelite.log *** [22:08:57.283447] decode_flush:190 decode flush [22:08:57.283496] output_flush:423 flush output buffer *** /var/log/squeezeboxserver/server.log *** [17-10-05 22:09:17.4970] Slim::Player::StreamingController::play (2100) 00:1c:c0:37:22:80 [17-10-05 22:09:17.4980] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stop (603) Song queue is now 0 [17-10-05 22:09:17.4983] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setPlayingState (2357) new playing state STOPPED [17-10-05 22:09:17.4984] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (2366) new streaming state IDLE [17-10-05 22:09:17.4991] Slim::Player::Song::new (108) index 0 -> file:///home/data/audio/DSD/test64-sdm8.dsf [17-10-05 22:09:17.4994] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (2366) new streaming state TRACKWAIT [17-10-05 22:09:17.5000] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_playersMessage (789) Now Playing: file:///home/data/audio/DSD/test64-sdm8.dsf [17-10-05 22:09:17.5012] Slim::Player::Song::getNextSong (229) file:///home/data/audio/DSD/test64-sdm8.dsf [17-10-05 22:09:17.5014] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_nextTrackReady (737) 00:1c:c0:37:22:80: nextTrack will be index 0 [17-10-05 22:09:17.5016] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1203) Song queue is now 0 [17-10-05 22:09:17.5018] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1206) 00:1c:c0:37:22:80: preparing to stream song index 0 [17-10-05 22:09:17.5019] Slim::Player::Song::open (363) file:///home/data/audio/DSD/test64-sdm8.dsf [17-10-05 22:09:17.5026] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (443) Error: Didn't find any command matches for type: dsf [17-10-05 22:09:17.5028] Slim::Player::Song::open (387) seek=false time=0 canSeek=0SEEK_ERROR_TRANSCODED [17-10-05 22:09:17.5032] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (443) Error: Didn't find any command matches for type: dsf [17-10-05 22:09:17.5034] Slim::Player::Song::open (409) Error: Couldn't create command line for dsf playback for [file:///home/data/audio/DSD/test64-sdm8.dsf] [17-10-05 22:09:17.5036] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_playersMessage (789) Unsupported sample-rate: file:///home/data/audio/DSD/test64-sdm8.dsf [17-10-05 22:09:17.5043] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_willRetry (1391) no retry data [17-10-05 22:09:17.5045] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (2366) new streaming state IDLE [17-10-05 22:09:17.5048] Slim::Player::StreamingController::nextsong (882) The next song is number 1, was 0 [17-10-05 22:09:17.5067] Slim::Player::Song::new (108) index 1 -> file:///home/data/audio/music/Samplers%20&%20demo/Japan%20Association%20of%20Professional%20Recording%20Studios%20(2015)%20multiformat%20reference%20recording/JAPRS%20Orfeu%20Negro%20DSD128.dff [17-10-05 22:09:17.5070] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (2366) new streaming state TRACKWAIT [17-10-05 22:09:17.5079] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_playersMessage (789) Now Playing: file:///home/data/audio/music/Samplers%20&%20demo/Japan%20Association%20of%20Professional%20Recording%20Studios%20(2015)%20multiformat%20reference%20recording/JAPRS%20Orfeu%20Negro%20DSD128.dff [17-10-05 22:09:17.5105] Slim::Player::Song::getNextSong (229) file:///home/data/audio/music/Samplers%20&%20demo/Japan%20Association%20of%20Professional%20Recording%20Studios%20(2015)%20multiformat%20reference%20recording/JAPRS%20Orfeu%20Negro%20DSD128.dff [17-10-05 22:09:17.5107] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_nextTrackReady (737) 00:1c:c0:37:22:80: nextTrack will be index 1 [17-10-05 22:09:17.5109] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1203) Song queue is now 1 [17-10-05 22:09:17.5111] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1206) 00:1c:c0:37:22:80: preparing to stream song index 1 [17-10-05 22:09:17.5113] Slim::Player::Song::open (363) file:///home/data/audio/music/Samplers%20&%20demo/Japan%20Association%20of%20Professional%20Recording%20Studios%20(2015)%20multiformat%20reference%20recording/JAPRS%20Orfeu%20Negro%20DSD128.dff [17-10-05 22:09:17.5343] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (443) Error: Didn't find any command matches for type: dff [17-10-05 22:09:17.5345] Slim::Player::Song::open (387) seek=false time=0 canSeek=0SEEK_ERROR_TRANSCODED [17-10-05 22:09:17.5348] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (443) Error: Didn't find any command matches for type: dff [17-10-05 22:09:17.5350] Slim::Player::Song::open (409) Error: Couldn't create command line for dff playback for [file:///home/data/audio/music/Samplers%20&%20demo/Japan%20Association%20of%20Professional%20Recording%20Studios%20(2015)%20multiformat%20reference%20recording/JAPRS%20Orfeu%20Negro%20DSD128.dff] [17-10-05 22:09:17.5352] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_playersMessage (789) Unsupported sample-rate: file:///home/data/audio/music/Samplers%20&%20demo/Japan%20Association%20of%20Professional%20Recording%20Studios%20(2015)%20multiformat%20reference%20recording/JAPRS%20Orfeu%20Negro%20DSD128.dff [17-10-05 22:09:17.5369] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_willRetry (1391) no retry data [17-10-05 22:09:17.5371] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (2366) new streaming state IDLE [17-10-05 22:09:17.5373] Slim::Player::StreamingController::nextsong (882) The next song is number 2, was 1 [17-10-05 22:09:17.5388] Slim::Player::Song::new (108) index 2 -> file:///home/data/audio/music/Samplers%20&%20demo/Japan%20Association%20of%20Professional%20Recording%20Studios%20(2015)%20multiformat%20reference%20recording/JAPRS%20Orfeu%20Negro%20DSD256.dff [17-10-05 22:09:17.5391] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (2366) new streaming state TRACKWAIT [17-10-05 22:09:17.5396] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_playersMessage (789) Now Playing: file:///home/data/audio/music/Samplers%20&%20demo/Japan%20Association%20of%20Professional%20Recording%20Studios%20(2015)%20multiformat%20reference%20recording/JAPRS%20Orfeu%20Negro%20DSD256.dff [17-10-05 22:09:17.5431] Slim::Player::Song::getNextSong (229) file:///home/data/audio/music/Samplers%20&%20demo/Japan%20Association%20of%20Professional%20Recording%20Studios%20(2015)%20multiformat%20reference%20recording/JAPRS%20Orfeu%20Negro%20DSD256.dff [17-10-05 22:09:17.5433] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_nextTrackReady (737) 00:1c:c0:37:22:80: nextTrack will be index 2 [17-10-05 22:09:17.5435] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1203) Song queue is now 2 [17-10-05 22:09:17.5436] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1206) 00:1c:c0:37:22:80: preparing to stream song index 2 [17-10-05 22:09:17.5438] Slim::Player::Song::open (363) file:///home/data/audio/music/Samplers%20&%20demo/Japan%20Association%20of%20Professional%20Recording%20Studios%20(2015)%20multiformat%20reference%20recording/JAPRS%20Orfeu%20Negro%20DSD256.dff [17-10-05 22:09:17.5444] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (443) Error: Didn't find any command matches for type: dff [17-10-05 22:09:17.5446] Slim::Player::Song::open (387) seek=false time=0 canSeek=0SEEK_ERROR_TRANSCODED [17-10-05 22:09:17.5450] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (443) Error: Didn't find any command matches for type: dff [17-10-05 22:09:17.5451] Slim::Player::Song::open (409) Error: Couldn't create command line for dff playback for [file:///home/data/audio/music/Samplers%20&%20demo/Japan%20Association%20of%20Professional%20Recording%20Studios%20(2015)%20multiformat%20reference%20recording/JAPRS%20Orfeu%20Negro%20DSD256.dff] [17-10-05 22:09:17.5453] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_playersMessage (789) Unsupported sample-rate: file:///home/data/audio/music/Samplers%20&%20demo/Japan%20Association%20of%20Professional%20Recording%20Studios%20(2015)%20multiformat%20reference%20recording/JAPRS%20Orfeu%20Negro%20DSD256.dff [17-10-05 22:09:17.5470] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_willRetry (1391) no retry data [17-10-05 22:09:17.5472] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (2366) new streaming state IDLE [17-10-05 22:09:17.5474] Slim::Player::StreamingController::nextsong (882) The next song is number 0, was 2 *** /tmp/squeezelite.log *** [22:09:17.497526] decode_flush:190 decode flush [22:09:17.497582] output_flush:423 flush output buffer
ma non devo "downsamplare" nulla! La scheda supporta fino a DSD512, e forse addirittura fino a DSD1024. Per altro, uno degli stream che sto' usando per i test è già in DSD64.
P.S.: ho anche provato a togliere il "-V" (controllo di volume), e poi tutto il resto tranne le cose essenziali, ma non cambia nulla.
P.P.S.: l'unica cosa che non ho provato a fare è disinstallare del tutto C3PO... ma non mi va di perdere il setup e doverlo riconfigurare (sul "player" che uso normalmente).
Ultima modifica di UnixMan : 05-10-2017 a 22:32
Ciao, Paolo.
«Se tu hai una mela, e io ho una mela, e ce le scambiamo, allora tu ed io abbiamo sempre una mela per uno. Ma se tu hai un'idea, ed io ho un'idea, e ce le scambiamo, allora abbiamo entrambi due idee.»
Se hai disabilitato il plugin è come se, non serve disinstallarlo.
Però rileggendo non mi hai ancora postato i 'resulting commands' con C-3PO disabilitato, sono:
dff dff **
# F noArgs, D noArgs, I noArgs
-
dsf dsf * *
# F noArgs, D noArgs, I noArgs
-
NOTA la presenza di D !
Ciao, Marco.
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction."
— E. F. Schumacher (mis-attributed to A. Einstein)
________________________________________________________________________________
Autore della patch R2 per Squeezelite e del plugin C-3PO. note libere
Logitech media Server 7.9 > miniPc + squeezelite-R2 / SB+ > "Lu Scalmentu" NOS R2R DAC by TubeOne/ AudioResearch DAC 1-20 >
Klimo Merlino Gold TPS > DIS Interconnect > Kent Gold > Reference > Monitor Audio Studio 20 SE
Ciao, Marco.
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction."
— E. F. Schumacher (mis-attributed to A. Einstein)
________________________________________________________________________________
Autore della patch R2 per Squeezelite e del plugin C-3PO. note libere
Logitech media Server 7.9 > miniPc + squeezelite-R2 / SB+ > "Lu Scalmentu" NOS R2R DAC by TubeOne/ AudioResearch DAC 1-20 >
Klimo Merlino Gold TPS > DIS Interconnect > Kent Gold > Reference > Monitor Audio Studio 20 SE
Ciao Marco,
no, sembra proprio sia LMS che non ne vuole sapere... né con DSF né con DSF, neanche a DSD64.
Quanto meno, la versione che ho io (che è l'ultima release "stabile"). Come dicevo, l'unica prova che non ho fatto è quella di disinstallare completamente C3PO ma, come dicevi tu, avendolo disabilitato per il player di test, non dovrebbe avere alcuna influenza.
Ciao, Paolo.
«Se tu hai una mela, e io ho una mela, e ce le scambiamo, allora tu ed io abbiamo sempre una mela per uno. Ma se tu hai un'idea, ed io ho un'idea, e ce le scambiamo, allora abbiamo entrambi due idee.»
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